Proposition 8 backers ask for permanent hold on gay marriage ruling - latimes.com

Update here, 8/17/2010. Hold is on until around December.

Proposition 8 backers ask for permanent hold on gay marriage ruling - latimes.com:

In an emergency appeal now before a federal court, the backers of Proposition 8 have asked for a permanent hold on last week's 'egregiously selective and one-sided' marriage ruling, contending it flouted the law and ignored the evidence.

The request to prevent the resumption of same-sex marriages in California next week is being considered by a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Two of the judges were appointed by Democrats, the other by a Republican. The panel has ordered all arguments to be filed by Monday.

Series tie-in: Same sex marriage is legal and becoming more common in the future. Same sex romances are common even if they do not result in marriage. In the Suki With A Twist series, Patricia and Samantha are a married couple.

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New at Reason: Steve Chapman on the Gay Marriage Debate - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

New at Reason: Steve Chapman on the Gay Marriage Debate - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

Why would the socially conservative National Organization for Marriage hold an anti-gay marriage rally in Madison, Wisconsin, where the group was sure of being badly outnumbered by motivated and well-organized critics? Maybe, writes Steve Chapman, because that's what the group wanted. The rally managed to make opponents of gay marriage look like a brave, embattled minority, even though they constitute 53 percent of the public and have gotten their way in all but a few states.

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Same Sex Marriage still banned in California, sort of

From the Washington Post:

Calif. Ruling Shows Hurdles Remain for Gay Marriage

By Keith B. Richburg

Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 27, 2009

The California Supreme Court upheld a voter-approved constitutional amendment Tuesday that bans same-sex marriage in the state.

The court said, however, that those couples who wed in the state under an earlier opinion from the court, will be considered married.

Now, if they would just get rid of heterosexual marriage maybe we will be approaching equality.

Some interesting comments from the Reasonids:

♪ May 26, 2009, 1:45pm #

There was actually a brief filed at the time after the first ballot proposal was overturned that would have put a halt on marring same-sex couples until the second ballot proposal was voted on. This would have been prudent in a time when the question was in flux.

Also, "gay marriage" is a misnomer. Nobody asks for sexual preference when filling out a marriage license.

ellipsis May 26, 2009, 5:47pm #

The Hef seems to be able to find multiple girlfriends. What if he wanted to marry all of them? The only thing that would change is the (now) wives ability to get tax deductions and estate matters.

Marriage used to be a license to have sex. That's why polygamy was banned, because the LDS was considered a freakshow. In modern times, marriage has nothing to do with sex. And yes I know I'm condensing, but bear with me. Polygamy wasn't even banned in the US until 1862, and only because of what amounted to religious persecution. The Merrill anti-Bigamy Act should have been overturned on first amendment grounds. But the majority is always willing to throw any odd practices under the bus for the morality of America.

I think polygamy should be legal - along with any other human marriage arrangement - but considering how hard it is to get same-sex marriage legalized, I doubt it'll happen any time soon.

Jeff May 26, 2009, 5:54pm #

Marriage is a union between one man and one woman. Anything else is NOT marriage. It may be a civil union, but it is not marriage.

I think the argument that the government should not issue marriage licenses is a valid one. Perhaps the government should issue "civil union" licenses and then if a man and woman want to get married, they may do so in whatever ceremony they wish. Then, everyone has equal rights and we don't redefine words.

For me, it's as much a logical argument as anything else. We might as well pass legislation that says day is night and night is day. That won't change the fact that the sun is visible at about the same time every day (oops, night) - we'll just change what that period of time is called.

For the record: I am against government involvement in marriage and that is one thing my fictional character of this name shares with me.

In other news, our crazy immigration policy was a factor in a friend of mine, who I used to date, getting married so that she does not have to keep going back to England for visa renewals.